Wednesday, March 26, 2025

How you can match extra play into your day


00:00:00: Introduction

00:00:16: The Profession Collective

00:03:26: play and work

00:10:58: Examples of being playful at work

00:14:45: Play as an antidote to emphasize

00:16:25: Concepts for motion…

00:16:50: … 1: pockets of play

00:17:17: a) Wordle

00:18:03: b) Protobot

00:18:48: c) LEGO

00:19:58: d) crew video games

00:22:38: … 2: enjoying with presenting

00:25:42: a) imaginative and prescient boards

00:26:28: b) query playing cards 00:32:16: Closing ideas

Sarah Ellis: Hello, I am Sarah.

Helen Tupper: And I am Helen.

Sarah Ellis: And that is the Squiggly Careers podcast.  Each week, we speak about completely different a subject to do with work, and share some concepts and actions in order that we are able to all navigate this Squiggly Profession with that bit extra confidence and management.

Helen Tupper: And earlier than we get began on at this time’s matter, which is all about how one can match extra play into your work, we simply need to let you already know about an occasion that we’ve got arising that we would like to see you at.  It’s on 2 December, and as an alternative of simply doing Squiggly Careers Reside, which is an occasion that we have carried out earlier than and has been very well obtained, we thought we might be part of up with another podcasters, and we’re making a one-off particular referred to as The Profession Collective.  Many names had been quoted —

Sarah Ellis: Did you see how Bruce Daisley, who’s considered one of our collective contributors, have you ever seen how he is described it at this time?

Helen Tupper: What’s he mentioned at this time?

Sarah Ellis: He mentioned, “Apparently, we’re just like the Avengers”!

Helen Tupper: Properly, are you aware what?  On that time, I wished to name it one thing like that and I wished to promote it and put capes on all of us.  I believed I may go on to love Midjourney or DALL-E.

Sarah Ellis: Proper, I would really like being like a superhero for a day.

Helen Tupper: Proper, I will decide this again up.  However the cynicism that I’ve confronted on this collective of making this occasion!  So, I’ve gone with The Profession Collective, which feels very formal as an alternative of getting extra enjoyable.  But it surely principally is a number of podcasters who’re coming collectively for one evening to debate and debate what’s subsequent for work.  And we’ll take some matters, which I feel we’ll have some very enjoyable, however doubtlessly heated conversations, about our variations and opinions.

Sarah Ellis: Oh, yeah.  I feel it truly makes me fairly nervous, as a result of I simply assume, you already know normally, I feel we’ll nonetheless do that, normally we do our finish of 12 months podcast, the place simply me and also you chat about our years, and I at all times actually look ahead to that podcast; whereas this 12 months, we’re doing a little type of high-profile, 300 individuals in a room with some —

Helen Tupper: It is 450, simply so you already know!

Sarah Ellis: Okay, with doubtlessly some fairly — I feel I will get completely dominated in these discussions!

Helen Tupper: You are not going to get dominated!   However everybody, if you wish to come, we might like to see you there, but additionally a little bit little bit of assist, as a result of I feel it may very well be a number of enjoyable, and a number of studying.

Sarah Ellis: I want some Squiggly chanters within the room, “Squigg-er-ly!

Helen Tupper: “Squigg-er-ly!  Squigg-er-ly!”  Are you able to think about if everyone…!  I bear in mind once I labored at Microsoft and we went to this large occasion, and all of the completely different international locations had been there and all of the international locations had completely different jackets.

Sarah Ellis: Okay.

Helen Tupper: So, you can see the UK crew and the German crew.

Sarah Ellis: I feel I would try to discover us some Squiggly stash to put on!

Helen Tupper: Properly, our crew are going to be in Squiggly stash, however I wonder if Squiggly Profession listeners can have a little bit badge.  That might be humorous.  However no, everybody, these individuals are all of our buddies.  And you have Isabel Berwick from the Working It podcast.  You have bought Bruce, who’s been a tremendous mentor for us, on the Eat Sleep Work Repeat podcast.  And you have Jimmy from Jimmy’s Jobs of the Future.  And we’re all coming collectively, it is one evening solely.  All of the earnings from the occasion, all the 450 tickets that can get bought, are going to charity.  They are going to Beam, and they’ll upReach.  So, not solely will or not it’s an evening of enjoyable and studying and reference to people who find themselves occupied with careers and work, all of these earnings are going to charity too.  So, we might like to see you there. We’re posting about this an terrible lot on LinkedIn.  We’ll put the hyperlink to the occasion as effectively within the present notes of the podcast.  And for those who can’t discover the main points and you actually need to come, simply electronic mail us, helenandsarah@squigglycareers.com and we’ll inform you tips on how to do it.

Sarah Ellis: So, on that be aware about being playful, I can not determine whether or not that occasion sounds enjoyable or scary proper now, I am making an attempt to not get distracted.

Helen Tupper: Attempt to not get distracted by that.

Sarah Ellis: Little bit of each.

Helen Tupper: Little bit of each!

Sarah Ellis: We will discuss a bit about play.  And once you say play and work, I suppose we need to take our work severely.  So, generally play can really feel like a humorous phrase to make use of, or it could possibly really feel disconnected from work.  However I feel simply because we care about our work does not imply that we will not have enjoyable and we will not take pleasure in it.  And there is fairly a grown-up definition from a man referred to as Stuart Brown.  So, he is a physician who has written an entire e book about play that I’ve learn.  It is truly actually attention-grabbing.  It talks about how play is so necessary and such a essential a part of studying.  He nearly makes a relationship between, he says play is like the way you truly facilitate studying, which you already know once you then begin to assume again to, effectively how do your youngsters study or how do the children that you already know study?  It is by enjoying.  And the way do they study finest?  By tricking them into enjoying, is what I’ve found once I’ve been making an attempt to get Max to do his homework.  I am like, “Proper, how can I make this ‘enjoyable’, in inverted commas”, however I truly do actually need him —

Helen Tupper: So true!  I am making an attempt to make maths enjoyable in the mean time with Madeline.  I am like, “Let’s do maths with pasta.  What different issues can we discover which can be enjoyable to do our sums collectively?”

Sarah Ellis: I used to be making an attempt to make the patron saints enjoyable, which not that enjoyable.  I labored very laborious and I bought props concerned.  I imply it did technically work, nevertheless it took all of my artistic power.  And so Stuart Brown says, he describes it as, “An absorbing and seemingly purposeless exercise that gives enjoyment and a suspension of self-confidence and sense of time”.  So, that prompted us to assume, “What does that imply?” in sensible phrases as ever, making an attempt to be helpful.  And we bought to, “This seems to be like enjoying at work and being playful along with your work in a very low strain approach”.  I feel as quickly as play loses the enjoyable, you cease enjoying.  If it is not enjoyable anymore, you are most likely not enjoying.  And if it is too organised, if there’s an excessive amount of strain on an exercise, it stops being playful. I used to be studying a very attention-grabbing article by IDEO, the place they really very deliberately create these play occasions in between set tasks that they must do.  What works very well about that’s individuals select what they need to play with and the way they play, however they’ve observed an actual watch-out. 

If play turns into that dreaded organised enjoyable and folks really feel pressured, or they cannot decide out, or they do not have many selections about tips on how to decide in, you lose all the objective of what you had been making an attempt to do with enjoying at work within the first place, you lose all the advantages of the creativity and the connection that comes with enjoying.  So, I feel it is not a simple one to get proper I feel in teams, as a result of you possibly can’t simply say to everyone, “Oh, let’s simply play extra”.  I do not assume anybody would do something otherwise.  However then equally, for those who go too far when it comes to placing construction round it, you most likely do not then get to a number of the advantages that you just’re making an attempt to grasp.

Helen Tupper: It is simply made me assume truly, as a result of I do assume that folks have a special opinion of what’s enjoyable.  If play is enjoyable, then —

Sarah Ellis: We undoubtedly have a special opinion of what’s enjoyable!

Helen Tupper: Yeah, we undoubtedly have a special opinion.  And so, having one exercise that works for everybody truly may very well be fairly laborious to do, and two issues got here in my thoughts once you had been speaking about it.  So, the one was, for those who’ve bought like a crew offsite, I fairly like the concept of getting, or you can do it just about, you can do it in digital rooms, however the thought of getting play stations, not just like the very well-known sport, however nearly like completely different, so there’s a alternative, such as you had been saying with IDEO.  So, some individuals can, I do not know, play with, there may very well be some word-based video games, some individuals might need number-based video games, some individuals might need these bodily issues, however there’s play stations that you would be able to decide primarily based in your play choice, I suppose, is one mind-set about it. Then the opposite factor I used to be interested by was ages in the past, that is going again now a few years, we did some work with ASOS.  And I bear in mind, I feel it was a part of their studying week.  And in addition to having individuals like us from our firm, Superb If, getting into and operating some periods as a part of their studying week, additionally they had some workers periods.  And I bear in mind, as a result of I feel it was within the room subsequent to me, that they had any individual who was inside, like  workers member, who was utilizing considered one of their expertise, and so they had been doing a session on, you may most likely know since you like crops, however you already know these hanging baskets, however inside ones, the place you nearly like crochet it your self; what’s it referred to as?

Sarah Ellis: Oh okay, not like in a terrarium.

Helen Tupper: No, not like a terrarium, I at all times get these confused as effectively.  However no, they’re like hanging baskets which can be made of virtually like a crochet hanging basket.

Sarah Ellis: A crochet, like a knitting one?

Helen Tupper: Yeah, yeah.  And that is playful, proper?  And so they had that in like, it was a part of a careers week.  However that they had, in addition to the extra, I assume, severe skill-based periods, I am unsure I consider our periods as very severe, however in addition to these ones, these very playful periods that had been taught by different individuals, and you did not have to be sensible at it.  However I feel having some alternative round what the play is that folks get to play to their choice, I feel may be higher than this at all times feeling compelled.  And we’ll come on to a number of the choices that we have got, so that you could give individuals these selections about what play may seem like for you or in your groups as effectively. I used to be studying an article this morning which we’ll put within the PodSheet round play, and I fairly like the excellence it made between efficiency and play.  So, it talked about at work, a number of our focus is on efficiency and excessive efficiency, and that’s about attaining excellence in opposition to expectations.  So, there are some benchmarks about what beauty like and we’re making an attempt to satisfy or beat these issues. 

That is what efficiency is.  And that is not unhealthy, however that is what it’s.  After which after efficiency, there’s observe, which is the place we’re consciously making an attempt to enhance, we’re making an attempt to develop and get higher.  And once more, that is not unhealthy, that is simply observe. However play is completely different to efficiency, it’s completely different to observe; play is judgment-free exercise.  So, it is not about getting higher at one thing and it is not being the most effective at one thing.  It’s simply doing one thing for the enjoyment of the exercise actually, with out worrying about how good you might be at it.  And generally, play, he talks about within the article, it could possibly really feel a bit awkward or it would really feel a bit uncomfortable or a bit embarrassing.  However truly, it is in these conditions the place we frequently study essentially the most, once we’re that little bit weak and we’re going right into a zone of labor that may generally really feel a little bit bit uncomfortable.  We study our expertise, we study ourselves, we study different individuals as effectively.

Sarah Ellis: And once I was studying some examples of organisations who’ve carried out this very well, it typically does assist if everyone is ranging from the identical place.  So, if some individuals have gotten extra experience than others, that may be difficult as a result of then you definitely’re like, effectively, this complete level about you need to try to take away the strain, you need everybody to have the ability to be playful.  For example you had been doing, I do not know, some improv, which is usually used for play, however some individuals in that group had been truly sensible at it.  It then begins to really put strain on the opposite individuals to be like, “Oh, however I am not nearly as good”.  So, making an attempt to consider and to decide on issues the place you are like, everyone will robotically be ranging from a really comparable place, sure, they could get to completely different outcomes, they could get to completely different locations by means of enjoying, however nearly when you have some experience within the room, it could possibly truly get in the way in which, which is why typically enjoying in a approach which is much away from what you do in your day jobs, I feel is actually useful.

Helen Tupper: So, when was the final time that you just had been playful at work?

Sarah Ellis: I do not know.  So, firstly, I feel I did not discover this very straightforward to reply, so nearly to the extent the place we almost took the query out.  However then I believed, “Oh, that is attention-grabbing in itself”.

Helen Tupper: You’ve additionally been in a little bit of a bubble writing a e book for 2 months.

Sarah Ellis: I’ve.  I’ve emerged at this time and I do not know the way I’ve emerged, to be sincere, primarily based on Helen’s suggestions about half an hour in the past; doubtlessly combined, nonetheless a bit upbeat however a little bit bit frantic on the similar time.  I have never had a lot downtime since ending, so I feel that is most likely what I want.  And so, the final time I feel I may bear in mind an instance I may level to, was on our Squiggly Staycation this 12 months, earlier this 12 months.  That is fairly a very long time in the past, so that is, what, 4 months in the past, 5 months in the past, we did an exercise with Play-Doh.  And it wasn’t simply, “Use some Play-Doh, have a play with some Play-Doh”, we did put a little bit of construction round it.  We mentioned, “Make one thing with Play-Doh that represents how you’re feeling concerning the subsequent three months”.  And truly, that did get everybody laughing since you’re all utilizing Play-Doh and it feels fairly joyful and kid-like, and nobody made any unimaginable creations, actually not that I can bear in mind.  Hopefully the crew will not be like, “How dare you, Sarah!” I feel it simply gave us a special approach, it gave us like a second of feeling light-hearted, which was good as a result of we might carried out another extra centered stuff.  However then truly, individuals additionally bought to share a little bit of a narrative and have a little bit of a play.

 And it did really feel a bit foolish, however then truly it appeared to additionally mix individuals with the ability to share a narrative, and that did really feel playful.  I am unsure it was utterly, you already know, numerous the definitions round play speak about it being purposeless, or maybe seemingly purposeless, as a result of I feel that did really feel fairly purposeful.  I felt like I realized about what was necessary to individuals, however possibly the making of the Play-Doh bit, that bit felt very low strain.  And in addition, it actually felt like you can go wherever you wished to.  You may share what you wished to, you can make no matter you wished to. Some individuals most likely did issues that had been a bit extra deep and significant, some individuals had been extra simply — I bear in mind truly one individual simply saying they liked the summer season, as a result of we had been nearly to enter the summer season, and I do bear in mind the flower, not too unhealthy to make with the Play-Doh, this wasn’t me, and any individual simply going, “That is the season I look ahead to, that is my second.  I just like the longer days, I like the sunshine, I just like the solar”.  And you are like, “Yeah, that was nice”.  So, that was most likely the one instance I may provide you with.

Helen Tupper: Properly, I most likely bought yet another lately, simply because I feel you had been in E book Bubble, which was there was a Squiggly sculpture that we had seen in London.  I feel it had simply come to us on an electronic mail or one thing.  And so, we had been having like a crew — it occurred to be a crew assembly, and we mentioned, “Oh, ought to we go and see what this sculpture is all about?”  And we wandered there.  It was a bit bizarre as a result of we did not know, is it nonetheless going to be there or what was it going to be like?  After which we bought there, and I bear in mind we had been simply fairly playful.  The crew had been standing on the statue, we had been taking images, and it simply felt a bit foolish.  And I do bear in mind individuals being like, “Oh gosh, is that this a bit foolish?”  But it surely was actually enjoyable and it was playful and it did truly create connection. One we did some time in the past was, we did a crew improv session with Max Dickins.

Sarah Ellis: That was sensible.

Helen Tupper: He comes from an organization referred to as Hoopla!

Sarah Ellis: That felt like pure play, proper, I feel?

Helen Tupper: Yeah.  But additionally once more, improv is not straightforward.  I imply, Max creates a superb scenario the place you’re feeling snug.  However you might be doing issues that make you’re feeling a bit foolish.  However equally, you are doing it in an surroundings that feels secure, everybody’s coming at it from the identical place, and I undoubtedly assume you simply create new connection and new power.  It takes you out.  In case your work is feeling fairly relentless, I feel play is a very great way of hitting reset a little bit bit, relatively than simply holding doing the identical factor.

Sarah Ellis: And there’s a great deal of proof that play is a wonderful antidote to emphasize, significantly truly when utilized in smaller methods.  So, I feel what Helen and I’ve each described is sort of these moments of play that we have designed and thought of.  However what we have not carried out is, there’s truly some actually attention-grabbing examples in hospitals, of the place they’ve created very quick moments of play, however which can be extra each day.  So, it might be one thing that is like 5 to seven minutes.  And every day, they examined issues like, someday they simply made some origami, which origami is at all times actually laborious, I feel.  Or they did one quite simple improv train. You possibly can learn a superb Guardian article by a physician referred to as Heidi Edmundson, the place she principally says she launched enjoyable to the lives of A&E workers.  So, that is hardcore hospital, proper, of all of the bits of the hospital.  And she or he talks about how the laughter was infectious.  I bear in mind studying it.  It decreased illness.  So, nurses, it truly improved individuals’s wellbeing, to the extent the place they may see it in individuals coming to work day by day, much less individuals left, but additionally simply individuals’s sense of enjoyment of coming to work, in what have to be a really hardcore surroundings, enhance.  And you may learn it, you too can hearken to her.  She was on Bruce’s podcast, I feel, fairly a number of years in the past, which I feel may be how I initially discovered her.  And I bear in mind considering, if she will do it in that surroundings, there isn’t any motive that everyone else cannot, as a result of that to me looks like a troublesome place to begin.

Helen Tupper: So, we wished to provide you some concepts so that you could practise enjoying at work.  So, we have got two areas actually.  We have got issues that you are able to do at work, and we break up these between issues that you are able to do by yourself and issues that you are able to do collectively in a crew; after which we have got some concepts for how one can play along with your work, so the issues that you just do on an on a regular basis, how one can simply try this in a barely extra playful approach.  So, we’ll undergo every of these now for you.

Sarah Ellis: So, the primary thought we have got for you, we’re calling pockets of play.  So, these are actually small moments of play that you can add into your day.  So, that is impressed by the work that folks like Heidi Edmundson has carried out in her hospital, the place individuals are actually interested by enjoying extra ceaselessly than most likely Helen and I had been saying both of us do significantly as a part of our work in the mean time.  And so individually, a few examples of issues you can do.  We each do Wordle, and we determined Wordle counts.  I feel we had been desperately making an attempt to consider like, “Does that really feel like –”  I feel if Wordle is a sport, and I feel the way in which that I do Wordle signifies that it counts. So, I do know some individuals do Wordle, and so they’re a part of like a WhatsApp Wordle group, and so they speak about what number of they bought it.  Or, you already know for those who had been to, “Oh, I am monitoring my streak, and I have to try to get it in two”, or no matter. 

I do Wordle actually quick.  I simply go, proper, I need to try to do it within the subsequent three minutes.  And I do not fear an excessive amount of if I am like, “Okay, effectively, I must generally use a phrase to study what it is not as a lot as what it’s”.  And it’s undoubtedly enjoyable for me, and it is pure play.  So, I do not take it too severely, however I do discover it very satisfying. The opposite factor that you are able to do, and Helen and I had been saying we bought completely different ones, there’s a nice web site referred to as protobot.org, and every day it generates random product concepts that you would be able to have a go at.  So, at this time I bought, “Design a birthday cake that matches in your pocket”.  What did you get Helen?

Helen Tupper: “Design a lawnmower that responds to voice instructions”.  I feel that will be nice.  I might love a type of.

Sarah Ellis: Yeah, that will be fairly good.

Helen Tupper: I’ve bought a number of grass that wants…

Sarah Ellis: It could be fairly helpful for you!  And so, I assume the concept of Protobot is prototyping.  However I feel you can simply have a play with that.  You may simply be like, proper, you can do a sketch, you can do a thoughts map, you can use objects round your own home, something principally that you just felt was enjoyable.  And the opposite factor that I have been studying quite a bit about, and this is among the causes I feel it is now so fashionable with adults, individually or as a crew, you should utilize LEGO.  I learn an amazing e book referred to as Construct Your self Joyful, the Pleasure of LEGO Play, which is by a woman referred to as Abbie Headon.  And she or he talks about simply truly the method of enjoying with LEGO.  It is so good for you, when it comes to being relaxed at an finish of a day, simply one thing that you just simply take pleasure in, you are not feeling like you have to take an image of it and add it on social media or something like that, you are principally similar to messing round with LEGO.  And although we generally consider LEGO as like, “Oh, I’ve bought to create an unimaginable fortress or a superb constructing”, truly what a number of adults like doing is simply the low strain, “I am simply going to place some bricks collectively and see what occurs”, which is certainly how I exploit LEGO once I use it with my 7-year-old.  So, that may very well be attention-grabbing. We are literally experimenting with that.  So, we have got an occasion arising in a few weeks, and we’ll get 100 individuals enjoying with LEGO in the beginning of the day.  So, we’ll let you already know, we’ll let you understand how that works out.

Helen Tupper: We’re additionally doing improv with individuals on the identical day.

Sarah Ellis: We’re, sure.

Helen Tupper: So, we’re practising what we’re saying.

Sarah Ellis: And as a crew, another concepts that you can strive.  I’ve carried out this earlier than, however not for a short while.  You do a self-portrait along with your non-dominant hand, and also you create a crew gallery.  Everybody indicators their photos, and that is actually enjoyable as a result of clearly everyone’s are garbage.  We have not carried out that in our crew, so I feel that will be an excellent one to do.  And you can use Play-Doh in the way in which that we have used it, or you can use Play-Doh, we have generally mentioned to individuals, “Oh, create the form of your profession up to now with Play-Doh”, and also you get all types of strange shapes. 

That may be fairly an excellent factor to do.  Something with drawing, in my expertise, as a result of we use a number of drawing within the work that we do, individuals are at all times fairly nervous of drawing, after which hundreds higher than they offer themselves credit score for, normally quite a bit higher than I’m, and we use numerous drawing.  But when you will get individuals making or drawing or doing one thing the place you possibly can — I typically assume play the place you possibly can see one thing, it is good that you’ve the bricks with the LEGO.  You are getting out of your head, I suppose, and doing one thing a bit extra sensible.  I typically assume that works very well.

My recommendation can be, try to join play to a second that you have already got collectively as a crew, as a result of I feel generally the place I’ve tried to do that and it is not labored, for those who attempt to do one thing separate, it at all times looks like a nice-to-do after which you do not actually find time for it.  I feel the place we have seen this work finest in our crew is, “Oh, we’re getting collectively, let’s make sure that we have got a second of purposeless play”.  And I feel a few of what we have carried out up to now has been extra by chance than design.  However having researched this and spent a little bit of time interested by play, actually over the previous couple of months, it makes me assume it is value being extra — it is humorous, you have to be intentional about then being purposeless about play.  However in any other case, I am unsure as a crew, it may very well be laborious to make it occur for those who simply mentioned to everybody, “Oh, we must always simply play extra”.  I simply do not assume something would change.

Helen Tupper: I feel once we do PodPlus, I’ll ask our group for a few of their concepts, as a result of I feel numerous individuals do that enjoyable stuff, however I do not assume it is actually, I do not know, I do not assume individuals share it and I feel we are able to borrow some concepts for one another.  I used to be interested by doing crew paper airplane challenges, and stuff.  It is a actually fast factor to do and infrequently takes individuals again to that childhood.  I feel possibly a few of these workouts that take you again to that childlike state of play, just like the LEGO or the paper airplanes, these issues are fairly useful to do. 

So, possibly having 5 minutes of play in the beginning of your month-to-month crew assembly may very well be a very good option to simply make this a part of how your crew comes collectively and creates power in the beginning of that second. So, the subsequent factor, in order that was all about enjoying at work, both by yourself or with the individuals that you just work with.  The opposite factor we wished to provide you some concepts for was enjoying along with your work.  So, how do you add a little bit of play into the stuff that you’re already doing?  So, numerous us are most likely doing presenting at work.  It is one thing that numerous individuals do in the identical approach.  And so, they do not essentially join that with play.  We open up some PowerPoint, we put some phrases and pictures on slide, after which we share that factor.  Enjoying with presenting may very well be a great way that you just take a little bit of strain off, and also you convey a bit extra playfulness into that factor that you just’re doing very often.  What we might say with presenting is clearly, there are most likely some shows at work which can be extra necessary than others.  If that is to your senior, if it is a board assembly —

Sarah Ellis: “I am simply going to make use of some AI to do that for me”!

Helen Tupper: “I am simply going to speak by means of the artwork of juggling”!  Possibly not then.  “Catch the balls to get the info factors”!  I might like to do this, are you able to think about?!  Oh expensive, possibly do not try this.  Thought I’ve seen, like Danielle, who’s our Finance Supervisor, she was at our crew assembly that we had been at, and she or he was actually playful with how she communicated some actually necessary numbers.  She did increased or decrease, did not she?

Sarah Ellis: Oh yeah, she made us try this quiz factor.

Helen Tupper: Yeah, she made us do a quiz.  And it was a quarterly replace on the efficiency of the enterprise.  It was fairly an necessary assembly, however she had managed to convey play into that in a approach that bought everyone engaged, even when numbers weren’t the factor that was most placed on the agenda.

Sarah Ellis: I feel I knew a number of the numbers and nonetheless bought the sport mistaken.

Helen Tupper: However once more, I feel these like, I do not know, the Era Recreation or the higher-and-lower issues, once more individuals have gotten an affiliation of these issues that I feel you possibly can convey into work.  However the level with presenting is, decide some low-pressure shows that you’ve got arising and play with the way you current.  So, for instance, you can strive drawing.  That’s one thing that Sarah and I do in how we current.  So, we simply use an app.  We get requested about this on a regular basis.  It is the WeTransfer Paper app, although there are many different drawing apps that you should utilize.  However that one’s free.  And once more, you can simply current by drawing as a approach that you can play with the way you do it.  Or there’s PechaKucha, which limits what number of slides that you would be able to have and means you simply have to make use of pictures and do it inside a sure period of time.  You may solely use pictures that you’ve got created with AI, for instance. I used to be remembering my presentation that I created.  That is very bizarre, I at all times bear in mind it.  I feel the software program does not exist anymore, however I feel you can most likely do one thing comparable with Mural, or one thing like that.  The software program was Prezi.

Sarah Ellis: Oh, yeah.

Helen Tupper: Do you bear in mind Prezi?

Sarah Ellis: I do.

Helen Tupper: I bear in mind I created a presentation for Richard Branson to launch a enterprise on Prezi, and this was essentially the most random, nevertheless it was fairly playful, you zoomed throughout.

Sarah Ellis: I do know, yeah.

 

Helen Tupper: As a result of Prezi, do you bear in mind?  However I feel simply enjoying with presenting, I feel, it simply makes it extra enjoyable than simply sticking pictures and bullet factors on a slide.  So, have a go together with that, that may very well be one factor that you can do.  After which the opposite factor you are able to do is play with the conferences that you’re doing.  So, we’re recording this in direction of the top of the 12 months, recording it in November.  So, in case you are listening when this goes out, you might need some end-of-year crew conferences arising, or possibly you are interested by a January assembly once you’re all getting collectively.  We’re doing that in our crew, for instance, and we’ll do a vision-board train.  So, it does have a objective, to Sarah’s level, the aim is on the finish of it, individuals may have a imaginative and prescient board for the 12 months forward, however we’re doing it in a very playful approach.  Individuals will principally have pictures, they’re going to be reducing and sticking.  It is fairly low strain, these items shouldn’t have to be excellent.  However I feel vision-board workouts are fairly a great way that folks can join and be playful about how they’re coming collectively. Only one final thought, and we thought we might simply check this stay so that you can finish at this time on, is one different factor you are able to do is, have you ever seen these connection playing cards?  I feel Steven Bartlett created them, I feel Faculty of Life have them, however they’re like little packs of playing cards the place there’s only a query on it and also you ask one another the query, and people questions may be fairly random.  We thought we might create — I will put this on our LinkedIn web page when the podcast goes stay.  So, go to @amazingif on LinkedIn if you wish to obtain this and use it out of your crew.  However we thought that you can use a few of these query playing cards for play and to create a little bit of connection, maybe in your end-of-year or start-of-year crew assembly.  And to point out you what which may look and sound like, we thought we might check one out on ourselves.  So, Sarah and I can see in entrance of us proper now, I feel, what number of have we bought right here?  We have got 12 random and playful questions and we do not know what query the opposite individual goes to ask.  So, we are able to see them and we each get to select.  So, Sarah, you go first.  What are you going to ask me?

Sarah Ellis: What’s your favorite film of all time, and why?

Helen Tupper: That is truly a bit embarrassing, I feel.

Sarah Ellis: Oh no, I feel everybody’s a little bit bit nostalgic or embarrassing, yeah, absolutely.

Helen Tupper: Okay, yeah, it is each of these issues.  Do you bear in mind a movie referred to as Flight of the Navigator?

Sarah Ellis: Completely not.

Helen Tupper: I can not consider I am saying this!  Oh my gosh, you are lacking a deal with, although I did try to get my youngsters to observe it, they thought it was terrible.  Flight of the Navigator options Sarah Jessica Parker, aged about 20, and it is about a little bit boy who falls down a gap, I imply I do not need to give any spoilers away, however a little bit boy who falls down a gap.

Sarah Ellis: Okay, I will must google this.

Helen Tupper: I feel he results in an area —

Sarah Ellis: Flight of the Navigator.

Helen Tupper: Oh, it is actually good.  He results in a spaceship, okay, and he is flying round on this spaceship and there is this actually cute little animal after which all of it — his mother and father get —

Sarah Ellis: To be truthful, it will get fairly good opinions.

Helen Tupper: It’s extremely, Sarah.

Sarah Ellis: It is 6.9 out of 10 on IMDB, and so they’re at all times fairly essential, is not it?

Helen Tupper: It is excellent.  However the motive why, I feel, is I used to have a childminder and she or he did not have many movies.  , it is again within the day!  So, I used to go after college to her home and I might watch Flight of the Navigator over and over and over.  So, I simply assume it simply has a little bit delicate spot in my coronary heart for that stage of my life.  Proper, shall I decide one for you?

Sarah Ellis: Go for it.

Helen Tupper: What’s your favorite day of the week and why?

Sarah Ellis: That is an excellent query, I like that query.  Favorite day of the week and why?  Do you assume that features weekends?

Helen Tupper: Yeah, it is an apparent reply, however for those who’ve bought an excellent motive why.

Sarah Ellis: Not a Monday or a Friday, not a Sunday, so I am going by elimination.  Both a Saturday, as a result of I feel I’ve at all times appreciated the Saturdays of a weekend, I really feel are sporty and also you’re doing enjoyable stuff and also you’re out and about and it is a good change from the way you spent the remainder of your week.  I feel a number of my favorite actions are at all times extra possible, to be sincere, most likely on a Saturday, extra personally.  I feel in every week, I like a midweek second.  So, I feel I ramp up because the week goes on.  So, I feel by Wednesday, my mind is firing, I am considering, however I am not too drained.  And you already know generally, I assume, then you definitely fall off because the week goes on.  So, I will go for, I like a midweek Wednesday.

Helen Tupper: Midweek Wednesday.  So, yeah, you have realized some stuff about Sarah and I.  You most likely did not must find out about Flight of the Navigator or that Wednesday’s Sarah’s favorite day of the week.  However the level is that you’ve this vary of questions.  You’d decide one, you’d pose it to somebody in your crew, it is extremely random, it is extremely playful.  And in addition, you study a bit extra about one another too.  So, we’ll create a model of these questions, we’ll put it on Superb If on LinkedIn.  So, if you wish to try this along with your crew as a part of considered one of your end-of-year or start-of-year workouts, head there, obtain it, after which you’ll do it.

Sarah Ellis: I really feel like what this begins to get to, and there are some good examples truly you possibly can learn of organisations doing this, however you already know the dreaded marshmallow problem?

Helen Tupper: Yeah, I like that one.

Sarah Ellis: Yeah, however everyone hates it, as a result of everyone who’s labored in large corporations has carried out it as a part of issues like evaluation centres, and I really feel like that has ruined the marshmallow problem, which for those who’ve not carried out it, it is marshmallows, it is spaghetti, make a tower as tall as you possibly can.  And I really feel like that had good origins, like its origin story might need been, “Oh, it is enjoyable and you’re employed as a crew and inventive”, after which it grew to become compelled enjoyable and like, “I am being assessed on this”.  And that is why individuals are like, actually, for those who google it, individuals are like, “Not once more, I’ve carried out it so many occasions”, or it simply looks like the other of what you are making an attempt to realize. 

So, I really feel like we want new variations of play that genuinely really feel playful, and that simply offer you that moments of sunshine reduction that, I feel, aid you to study.  And I do not assume these must be like large adjustments or like, “Oh, we have got to spend half a day doing a giant team-building train”. I feel all the examples I’ve learn, all the inspiring ones, like within the NHS or individuals like IDEO, they are much extra like small — that is why I feel ‘pockets’ works very well as an outline — they’re small pockets of play that folks begin to actually look ahead to, and also you simply know you possibly can simply flip up and have a go and then you definitely transfer on with the remainder of your day.  So, I am actually intrigued to see, as a result of we’re making an attempt a number of extra issues out within the subsequent month or so, after which I might additionally like us to consider rhythms and rituals and the way you try this too.  So, we’ll let you already know in six months whether or not we have been enjoying a bit extra, as a result of I do not assume we do a great deal of this in the mean time and I feel there’s some actually good alternatives to do extra of it that really aren’t that arduous to make occur.

Helen Tupper: And we might like to crowdsource some concepts from our Squiggly Careers group as effectively.  So, if there are enjoyable issues that you’re doing in your crew that you just assume that numerous our listeners may study from, please tell us.  You possibly can both message us on Instagram or LinkedIn, if that is the place you might be, or simply ship us an electronic mail, helenandsarah@squigglycareers.com, and simply share with us what moments of play you are already doing in order that we are able to possibly put a highlight on them and share them with the group at scale.

Sarah Ellis: However that is every part for this week.  Please do be part of us at The Profession Collective, if solely to see how a lot I get dominated in these discussions and/or to boost some huge cash for 2 very worthwhile charities.  So, we might like to see you there if you may make it to London, and clearly we’ll launch that as a podcast episode as effectively, as we do know London does not at all times work for everybody.  However that is it for this week, thanks a lot for listening and we’re again with you once more quickly.  Bye for now.

Helen Tupper: Bye everyone.



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